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Ancient History. Fact or Fiction?
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Copyright Peter Thomson 2005

 

 

  1. Ancient History Index
  2. How to cut stone
  3. How to - as told by Rekmara
  4. How to lift a monolith
  5. How to measure and mark out true North
  6. How to move and lift stone
  7. How many people needed to build pyramid?
  8. A possible origin for the pyramid
  9. Coral Castle - a modern example
  10. Serious Anomalies
  11. Unexplained flying vehicles
  12. Ancient writings
  13. The ice age ends - wrong time, wrong place
  14. Terraforming Mars
  15. Secret Science, Hidden History
  16. Introduction
  17. A secret human history
  18. Ending the ice age - overturn
  19. Anomalies 15000 BP to 5000BP Conference/ Discussion board

 

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Ancient Writings Samarangana Sutradhara and the charged sheath vortex tornado fusion drive


These theories were developed originally to explain the development and formation of tornados. They involve no new science theory, merely application of what we already know.

I was struck by the similarities to an exercise used to teach students how to analyse information scientifically and with an open mind. See My UFO project

The coincidences seemed remarkable, so I did a little more research to see if anybody else was working in the same area. The matches came not from modern science, but translations of ancient Indian writings.

Now I would normally simply discard that as an interesting coincidence, nothing more.

But I decided to see if this could be used as another student exercise in analysing data and rationl scientific analysis.

The ancient Indian writings describe a technical civilisation with flight capabilities, possibly space flight, and this civilisation ends with horrendous weapons and what could be a very accurate description of a nuclear holocaust.

So what do we need before we can say, that on the balance of the evidence, this civilisation was real?

In order to start developing a knowledge of science and a technological base you must have copper, lead, tin, and iron, and be mining, smelting and processing these in sufficient quantities to leave a trace worldwide in ice cores. The Greek and Roman industrial development left a clear signature. Our ancient civilisation, if it existed, must also have left a similar trace.

Nuclear fission leaves a clear signature, and the fallout from a nuclear war should be clearly visible in cores of coral reefs.

Glass produced by a fission or fusion bomb over desert fusing the desert sand will remain.

Climatologists today emphasise that a nuclear winter would almost certainly follow a nuclear war, so too we should expect a nuclear winter to show its clear signature in ice cores and in the coral cores.

One of the less pleasant aspects of our current civilisation is the rapid loss of many of the larger animal species. We should expect a similar megafauna extinction event to have accompanied an ancient civilisation.

So, we have set our test for an ancient technological civilisation.

But there is a problem with dating the past.

If an ancient nuclear war did occur then carbon isotope ratios would not show a steady year by year change. During the period in which nuclear fusion and fission devices were in operation carbone isotopes would be produced that would make dating that period using carbon 14 analysis chaotic. This becomes another prerequisite of our test for a nuclear civilisation. Undisturbed sediment cores, ice cores and carbon from well stratified layers show chaotic dates.

We cannot use carbon 14 as the method of dating because of this possibility. Instead we must rely on counting year by year the ice in deep cores from the fluctuations in summer and winter snows, and in counting year by year through sediment cores from lakes where the bottom has never been disturbed, and the layers from the annual cycle is visible. We can do the same for coral growth. And tree rings from logs preserved in peat deposits provide another year by year counting method.

The ice cores can show temperature as well as mineral dust, and there are now complete cores from the middle of the greenland ice cap.

Coral absorbs uranium from the surrounding sea water, Uranium decays radioactively into U234, and then into Thorium 230, at a known rate. So the thorium/uranium ratio accurately indicates the age of the coral, and by working back from the present concentration we can work out the concentration of uranium in the coral when it was alive. This same method can be used to date formations in limestone caves.

The Evidence for an Ancient Technological (Nuclear) Civilisation

When you plot graphs of all the key criteria I have set out against time and mark all those points that could be significant, they all line up at one point!

They line up at the end of the Dryas period!

The ice cores show that at the end of the last ice age temperatures increased steadily for the next thousand years. Traces of copper, tin and lead show marked increases!

The Older Dryas period ends abruptly with a dramatic drop in temperatures.

This may co-incide with megafauna extinction events of Mammoths as well as the megafauna of North and South America

Uranium concentrations in coral jump dramatically from about 1.5 parts per million to over 4 parts per million at about this period

Radio carbon dates at this period are chaotic! Studies of layered deposits laid down by lakes provide confirmation of irregularities in the chronological record. Fiedel cites studies of a Scandinavian lake-bed sequence, where a date reversal occurs in the deposits lying just beneath deposits indicating the onset of Younger Dryas. A radiocarbon date of 10,750 +/- 100 years B.P. occurs 16 centimeters below a date of 10,995 +/- 75. That 16 cm is possibly equivalent to about 500 years of deposition according to the lake-bed research. Fiedel says the 10,750 date is sandwiched between dates of 11,065 +/- 150 and 11,630 +/- 190 radiocarbon years.

This research by Svante Bjorck of the University of Copenhagen and colleagues on lake-bed deposits in Scandinavia revealed large jumps in radiocarbon age from around 11,400 to 10,900 years ago. Their Swedish lake-bed sediments dated by accelerator mass spectrometer and coeval German tree ring data revealed that after 11,000 to 10,900 radiocarbon years ago, radiocarbon dates suddenly leaped to 10,600 (Folsom-age). Further, Bjorck and colleagues reported that before a radiocarbon dip at around 12,600 years ago, there appears to have been an increased ratio of carbon-14 and that was preceded by another dip that began about 13,200 years ago.

Carbon-14 dates for pollen-bearing strata at Rotsee, Switzerland, show a comparable pattern. Fiedel reports that the stratigraphic sequence from the Swiss core reveals the following reversal in the column: at 795 cm, approximately 11,600 and 11,200 radiocarbon years; at 790 cm, 11,350 years; at 780 cm, 10,600 years; at 770 cm, 11,000 years; and at 760 cm (just after onset of the Younger Dryas), 10,400 years. He notes that similar reversals of AMS radiocarbon dates between 10,660-10,900 years ago have been reported in Atlantic Canada lake-bed cores, for example at Splan Pond, where a radiocarbon date of 10,970 +/- 90 overlies a date of 10,690 +/- 80. ( see http://www.peak.org/csfa/mt12-4.html)

Fused desert sands have been found, notably in the Egyptian desert, but dates from fision track analysis (which assumes non nuclear origin) contradict geological observations on the ground.

Was there an ancient nuclear civilistation

All the evidence supports the hypothesis that a technological civilisation developed in the 1000 years immediately after the last ice age. It mined and smelted copper, lead, tin and almost certainly iron. During this period it hunted and destroyed all the megafauna predators from all continents, and destroyed most of the Mammoths, and the megafauna in the Americas. It developed a nuclear capability and then destroyed itself in a nuclear holocaust. The nuclear holocaust was followed by a nuclear winter that returned the world to an ice age for a further 1000 years before the warmth returned.

It has taken 8000 years to recover from a nuclear war!!!

There is no evidence that suggests the nuclear winter was a natural event. It doesn't fit in with the expected global warming of the climate models.

So the evidence supports the hypothesis of an ancient technological civilisation - what are the implications?

A translation of ancient texts - The Samarangana Sutradhara

"They were propelled by air and inside is placed a mercury engine with an iron heating apparatus beneath. By means of the power latent in the mercury sets the driving whirlwind in motion. When it has been heated by the controlled fire from the iron containers a thunder power is developed through the mercury. If the iron engine with the properly wielded joints be filled with mercury and fire conducted into the upper part, it develops the power with the roar of the lion."

"..inside it (the vimana) one must place the mercury-engine with its iron heating apparatus beneath. By means of the 'power latent in the mercury' which sets the driving 'whirlwind' in motion, a man sitting inside may travel a great distance in the sky in a most marvelous manner.

Similarly by using the prescribed processes one can build a vimana as large as the temple of the God-in-motion. Four strong mercury containers must be built into the interior structure.

When these have been heated by controlled fire from iron containers, the vimana develops thunder-power through the mercury. And at once it becomes a pearl in the sky.

Moreover, if this iron engine with properly welded joints be filled with mercury, and the fire be conducted to the upper part it develops power with the roar of a lion."

Nuclear Event in North America

see by Richard B. Firestone, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, and William Topping, Consultant, Baldwin, Michigan "Our research indicates that the entire Great Lakes region (and beyond) was subjected to particle bombardment and a catastrophic nuclear irradiation that produced secondary thermal neutrons from cosmic ray interactions. The neutrons produced unusually large quantities of 239 Pu and substantially altered the natural uranium abundance ratios ( 235 U/238 U) in artifacts and in other exposed materials including cherts, sediments, and the entire landscape. These neutrons necessarily transmuted residual nitrogen ( 14 N) in the dated charcoals to radiocarbon, thus explaining anomalous dates."

My Commentary

I am still trying to confirm that this is a genuine extract from a genuine old document: The Samarangana Sutradhara.

The Vymaanika Shaastra is not an ancient document, but was written in early 1900. There is always the possibility that it was a document learnt by heart and later re-written, but its content, where intelligible, reflects the interests and technology of the late 1890s and 1900, plus recipes for making various types of glass. I would tend to discount it.

I have been investigating the validity of these translations and of the text itself. There is no doubt that some of these texts exist, and there may be more scattered in old monasteries. There are many references to these texts in Indian government and scientific publications.

The original language of the text deals in concepts, and the interpreter has used their own understanding of science in creating the english language version. It seems highly likely that the texts contain more highly developed concepts than the present translation indicates. The texts cover a very wide range of topics, from town planning, health and hygiene including a detailed description of vaccination, to wide ranging discussion of mechanics and scientific observation, method and theories.

All the areas that I have looked at reveal a local civilisation with knowledge and skills in many areas similar to our own in 2001. There is no reason to doubt from those texts that this civilisation did exist.

So when I examine some of the scientific works of these texts, I am reading them as a scientist accepting the text at face value. I find descriptions of electricity and mechanics that are in full agreement with todays science. I find descriptions of vimana, aircraft of many designs, that are all scientifically feasible, except that they require a powerful and controllable power source.

Now the text quoted above is one description of such a power source, but the translation is by a person who doesn't understand the concepts.

My translation:

"They were propelled by air and inside is placed a mercury engine with an iron box containing a radioactive source beneath. By means of the power latent in the mercury sets the driving vortex in motion. When it has been radiated by alpha particles from the iron containers a thunder power (proton proton fusion is catalysed by the mercury.) If the iron engine with the properly welded joints be filled with mercury and the hot mercury plasma is channeled into the upper part, it develops the power with the roar of the lion."

The hot mercury plasma could be used to drive a turbine, or directly used as the primary coil of a transformer to develop extremely powerful electromagnetic fields, and electricity.

After reading descriptions from the ancient Indian writings about the vehicle powered by the contents of a ,metallic box and mercury, it seems to me that the contents of the metal box is simply a source of powerful alpha radiation. This would charge the mercury with alpha particles.

If these experiments don't support my hypothesis then the ancient writings will remain for me an unexplained riddle. But if they do support my hypothesis, then I would change to 99% the probability of there having been a local technical civilisation somewhere on this planet in the past.

But remember why those ancient books were written. If the science and technology they describe stands up to close scrutiny, and it seems to, then the history and the reasons for writing the books should also be examined with care.

These books were written some time after a nuclear war in which two great civilisations destroyed themselves.

The remnants of these civilisations were attempting to record their knowledge for the future. They may have been written some time after the destruction, when the writers themselves may not have been the scientists who fully understood the concepts being described.

Changes may have been made in the texts as they were copied and recopied over the generations.

Please contact me if you can help with any of the following:

It should be possible to date this conflict using radioactive measurements of sediment cores taken in the great Indian rivers - assuming the civilisation was somewhere in India, but the remnants of the population displaced by nuclear war may have evacuated to India, and the battle may have taken place in another region of the world.

There are several glass deserts, where the desert surface has been fused to glass, and looks just like the effects of a fision or fusion bomb. Has anyone dated this glass to test the hypothesis that these were the sites of ancient bomb tests or war?

Are there any language scholars out there who can provide an english translation of concepts, rather than trying to identify the science, of the ancient texts.

There are a few plants that could only have been distributed round the world at some time in the past by people. Papyrus is one of these. It originates in Egypt and the Sudan, but is also found in lake Titicaca in the Andes and on Easter Island. Has anyone done sediment cores in these lakes that could identify when it first started growing there?

UFO relevance

These ancient flying vehicles powered by a fusion engines may have survived to the present day. It is much more likely than any alien hypothesis.

They are most likely to have survived away from any seismic zone, in a very dry atmosphere, and in underground caverns.

Those still flying today may be piloted by people who do not understand how they work, who have simply found them, or belong to a dynasty charged with looking after them, who no longer know their history or why they are there. People just like you and me, not aliens.

If you have access to an old vimana please let me know.

The arc of the covenant may have been an old vimana fusion power source, nothing magical, just a metal box containing powerful emitters of alpha radiation, and mercury. Opening the box will probably kill you!

Artefacts?

There is one well documented artefact that is difficult to explain unless they have survived from this Dryas civilistation.

An aluminium belt from a tomb in China.

There have probably been many more artefacts found and discarded because of the ridicule heaped on any archaeologist who suggests that our civilisation may not have been the first. If you find such an artefact, it is vitally important to keep everything that surrounds it to help with dating.http://www.violations.dabsol.co.uk/descent/descentpart2.htm

Devices such as the calculating device from the floor of the Mediterranean may appear out of their time, but gear trains were well known and understood in ancient greece, and the mechanism of construction does not suggest it is out of place.

See http://etl.uom.gr/mr/Antikythera/price.htm

The Library at Alexandria

Jenny Jobbins delves into the story of what might have happened to the Great Library built by the Ptolemies

Speculation

Development of science in our society has been hindered by beliefs in magic, astrology, alchemy, religion and the scientific establishment. The key developments have been made by a few individuals prepared to accept the evidence of their own senses, and to devise experiments to explore further, and a willingness to create new hypotheses and discard any that do not match the evidence. There is no reason why small groups of individuals working to explore how the world works, could not have achieved much of todays macro science in a period of 1000 years. There are many aspects of todays science that they may not have investigated, such as our computers and electronic systems. We do not need to give them any superhuman characteristics ar achievements.

They may also have developed their own religious belief systems. They need not have been any better or any worse than any of ours today.

Science may have developed in a very small group of people living in a small geographical area. They may have had no interest in teaching the scattered stone age tribes of the rest of the world.

After their holocaust, the people who understood the science may have been destroyed. What was passed on was a few artefacts, and a verbal history of their race with an injunction to preserve the history as carefully as possible.

This knowledge, a little of which could be understood and a few artefacts, gave great power and religious significance to those who held it and passed it on. It was passed on because it gave such power. It became the esoteric knowledge of secret societies, garbled and missunderstood.

The secrecy made the knowledge vunerable to destruction as stronger fighting forces sacked the ancient cities.

With the passing of time artefacts would stop working and fusion power sources would fail. A mercury fusion engine is described as being used to frighten elephants with its noise!

Many documents may have survived as far as the great library of Egypt. Solon certainly indicated this was true. He may not have been able to read scientific texts, but maps would be understood, and mathematical texts could also probably be understood.

Many of our myths and legends may be the garbled history of a brief civilisation that flowered in the Dryas period before destroying itself.


This information is copyright Peter Thomson 2001-2004

 Lost city 'could rewrite history  Posted by (message id=3210 )
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1768109.stm

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 anomalies ancientwriting  Posted by R. Cedric Leonard (message id=4097 )
Dear Mr. Thomson,



You have a very interesting website which contains a lot of intriguing information. The English translation of the title Samarangana Sutradhara into "Battlefield Commander" came from my website. Your translation of the text using words like "vortex" is also intriguing. Have you had training in Sanskrit, and if so, where? I applaud any effort to throw light on these old Sanskrit texts.



I also have wondered if the world became involved in a nuclear holocaust at the end of the Pleistocene. I don't have solid enough evidence to include on my website www.atlantisquest.com at present, but the evidence is slowly building.



I do have an account from the Mahabharata of the war which sent the Daityas and Danavas to the bottom of the Western Ocean (the Atlantic). If you chose you can click on the Ancient Indian Aircraft icon, and you can find it from there. Keep up the good work.



Best wishes,

R. Cedric Leonard

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 anomalies ancientwriting  Posted by R. Cedric Leonard (message id=4098 )
Dear Mr. Thomson,



You ask for information regarding the authenticity of the Samarangana Sutradhara quoted above. I suppose someone would have to live in India to see the actual manuscript, so I can't provide that kind of information.



However, I sometimes correspond with certain authorities there, and have acquired of number of books, etc., over the years. The Sanskrit text from the Samar quoted above is printed in "War in ancient India," by V. R. Ramachandra Dikshitar (Motilal banarsidass, Madras, 1944), pp. 279-281.



Dikshitar is a well-known Indic scholar, and would never print something regarding India that hadn't been properly verified. I think this speaks volumes toward the authenticity of the Samar.



I have done my best to provide the most complete translation of the portion of text printed in his work. If you go to my website www.atlantisquest.com, click on the Aircraft From India icon, then click on An Ancient Airplane you will find my translation, which was made directly from the Sanskrit text (black letter text only). It will differ slightly from other published translation. As I point out, the word "vimana" is used only once in the portion presented. Some translations render the Sanskrit word "yantra" (machine) incorrectly as "vimana".



Best wishes,

R. Cedric Leonard

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 anomalies ancientwriting  Posted by Les (message id=4192 )
Hello Mr.Thomson!



Thank you for your research. It provides yet another indicator that our official history is deeply flawed, perhaps intentionally falsified.



You might find www.cassiopaea.org also a fascinating read, as it contains a very plausible chronology and explanation of our existence, origin, purpose, and even the purpose of our exploiters. Plenty of good food for thought.



Interestingly enough, whatever the contents, it is emphasized that the reader is free to engage in verification or rejection. It stands to reason that facts remain facts even when they are ignored.



Enjoy! Best Regards, Les

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