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Hi, My dd is 4 months and since birth has suffered with painfull wind and stomach cramps. My health visitor and GP put it down to colic bit things are getting worse not better. I have always been concerned that it was something more than ' wind ' as she is in so much pain and passes wind constantly from both ends. She is breastfed (no solids yet) and i am wondering if gluten can be passed on in breastmilk as i am starting to think it may be gluten that is upsetting her. I dont really know much about this, so does anyone have any advice? Can i have tests done? Should i follow a gluten free diet? How is celiac disease diagnosed and treated in babies?
Your help would be much appriciated.
Thanks
Claire. xx
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| Re: 4 month old baby
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It seems that breast feeding can be away of stopping children developing CD so you are probably doing the best thing by feeding your daughter yourself.
Here is some information:
http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/28/wheat.htm
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| Re: 4 month old baby
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Gluten allergy normally only appears when a baby starts eating solids and fails to thrive. A baby should not be fed any gluten containing food in the first 6 months.
It would certainly be unusual for a baby to react to mother's milk because the mother was eating gluten. If your baby is not thriving, then you should consult your doctor for further advice
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| Re: BABY: Diet changes do work
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I have a three month old baby at the time of writing and I am on a totally glutenfree diet because cutting out gluten has improved my skin and also cleared up a slight case of psoriasis. My baby is thriving on breast milk. He is already weighing 8,3kgs. Everyone is commenting on the fact that he is so content with life, alert, physically strong for his age, and the fact that he almost never cries.
A few weeks ago when I accidentally ate food that contained gluten, baby was defenitely unhappy and colicky for about a day.
Another food group that I do not take in any form, is cow's milk products. Foods containing gluten or cow's milk are apparently the two most common foodstuffs reflected in a mother's milk that may cause problems with breastfeeding babies.
The fact that my baby is so strong and healthy just confirmed for me that a mother need not take any dairy products to ensure a healthy strong child. My main sources of calcium are green leafy salads (the darker green the better - I have daily green salads at at least two meals), nuts (almonds, cashews,pecans), seeds (sesame, flax, sunflower, pumpkin), as well as fish (sardines, tuna, salmon, hake) and free range eggs.
Main sources of carbohydrates are brown rice (various types such as short grain, basmati etc) potatoes, and cornmeal breads etc.
Dr Stephen Davies and Dr Alan Steward write in their book Nutritional Medicine (Pan Books) (p346) Infantile colic is very often due to cow's milk intolerance."
"If a mother is drinking cow's milk, certain of the proteins derived from cow's milk appear in her breast milk, are absorbed in the gastrointestinal tract of the babyand can then cause problems in susceptible infants. So if a baby has eczema, wheezing, skin problems, digestive problems or sleep disturbances, he or she might be reacting to certain of the foods that the mother is eating. (Apart from dairy foods, other suspects include wheat and citrus fruit.)"
The authors then suggest keeping a food dairy, following a rotated diet, while making sure that nutritional needs are adequitely met. They conclude: "By following the above regimen, we have seen infantile colic, sleep disturbances, skin problems, and restlessness settle beautifully."
From my personal positive experience I truly believe that following an elimination diet for at least two weeks is worth all the sacrifices to be made.
Hope this is helpful. If you need more detailed info please let me know. If anyone does try an elimination diet with good results, do let us know.
Good luck
Liza Hattingh
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I suffered from insulin diabeties in pregnancy - ended up having a emergency section with our son Ethan. His sugars were very low and so he was given cow and gate formula feed in theatre - and that was the start of his problems. He was tube fed formula for a week until my milk came in - and could keep very little of it down.I breastfed him excusively until just past 6 months and he now is down to morning and night feeds. Ethan was extremely sensetive to my diet. I excluded all dairy, onions from MY diet at 6 weeks ( until 9 months) and exluded egg from 14 weeks old. If I ate egg, he projectile vomited and was ill for days. With milk the first thing was posseting and extreme wind - screaming for hours and a rash around his ears and hairline and chin , then his eyebrows and ears went blotchy, yellow spots and the skin peeled ! ( this was from my milk if I ate dairy !!) Another good indicator was his bottom - he gets ( still does with any disagreeable food ) a red anus with a reaction - pillar box red approx 12 to 24 hours after he has eaten something . We started weaning later , with the help of the dietician and local hospital - if your baby is intolerant / allegic they can help but you have to be firm and keep a diary of your babys symptoms. I lso took photos of the rashes. You can get special milks ( soy and nutramigen we tries) on prescription and food supplement powders for energy. Ethan has one called duocal which is carbs and fat to help his energy. Dietary sensetivites are a very real area - as a new mum you are made to feel just useless if your baby cries - its not 'just colic' !! Confidence in a new mum is an art form but you have a right to help if you feel your child is ill. It's what we pay our taxes for !! Perversely I have researched so much I can often tell the doctors a thing or two !! I am finding weaning a challenge but take things a day at a time. Trust your instincts and dont be afraid to eliminate from your own diet - it worked for us and kept Ethan well .Ethan is now 13 months old and is on a dairy , egg and gluten free diet still
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I am so relieived to have found this website. i have just excluded wheat and dairy from my diet and within 48 hours noticed an enormous difference. ( Just omitting dairy did not work) I had ended up in hospital at 6 weeks hysterical that there was something wrong with my second daughter and was told my baby had colic ( all day and all night within 10 mins of being fed) I started using colief which helped a bit but cutting out wheat has really made a difference.
I have found doctors reluctant to make any dietary suggestions - my first daughter became very constipated following cows milk being introduced to her diet and every doctor and health visitor i spoke to denied it could be the cause. However it did disappear within 3 days of stopping cows milk and i have since met a couple of other mothers who have experienced the exact same thing. ( one who had been attending a "poo" clinic at hospital for a year with her daughter)
i think it is probably worth looking at diet for any "colicky" baby. One precaution - if giving up wheat prepared for some horrendous withdrawal headaches about 3 days after giving up
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| Re: BABY: Diet changes do work
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Withdawal symptoms are a very good indicator that you should be a on a gluten-free diet. Think twice before starting to eat gluten again.
Peter
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hai i have a son now he is 11 months old when he is 2 months old he has red spots and itching on the skin still he has the problem he is crying alot i shows the doctor she said that it is hixima how it will goes please give me a advice
umareddy
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| Re: skin problem
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My 8 month old son has very sore itchy red cheeks and every night he rubs his skin raw causing him problems to get to sleep, Cotton and material gets embedded on his skin. At times itmakes him very miserable and moany, I have put him on soya milk, sue non bio powder have had creams form t he doctor and nothing works. I,m very desperate, is there anything else i can do.
cx
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I've got an eight month old little girl and her cheeks are always red however they don't appear to be sore. She also has a really red and itchy rash like ecezma on her stomach and chest we've gone to soya milk and that has made it better but now i've cut out gluten as well and it's nearly gone
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My baby is almost 4 months old. By three weeks old, she would cry when finishing feeding at the breast. Everything I read, doctors I spoke to and friends suggested that it was NOT what I ate but that she was so young and her digestive system was still developing. Also my doctor stated I had a colicky baby. The prior to this doctor's visit she had cried for 7 hours. I had to use gripe water after every feed to ease her stomach pains. It did help. But I was getting worried and tired.
What has saved my sanity is eliminating ALL gluten products and dairy from my diet. As soon as this was done I discovered a happy, easy going baby. NO LONGER USED GRIPE WATER. I have experimented recently with gluten foods to determine if it was coincidental (baby getting older), but when she was 3 1/2 months old, I ate home-made spelt bread (gluten product) and within 24 hours the nightmarish crying, cramping and colicky behaviours returned. After 36 hours (it seems to take that long to go through my system) I once again had a happy baby.
I do not have a colicky baby since I have changed my diet. It is worth the change and restrictions since I have so much fun with my baby girl
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My 5 week old b/f ds sleeps beautifully at night (passing wind without obvious problem) but is in clear pain throughout most of the day (still passing wind at both ends most copiously!) Having read this site two days ago - I've completely cut out Wheat & Dairy to see if it helps. There's still a lot of wind (but then I didn't expect results overnight) but he's currently sleeping peacefully - which is unheard of at 9:30am (he used to wake at 7am and be up until 8 - 10pm). I will keep you posted as to how we get on, but was wondering if anyone could give a Dairy / Wheat freak (I've always eaten both in copious quantities) some guidelines as to what I should be eating to still keep the b/milk of good quality
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| Re: baby and diet changes
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see the thread on what you can and cannot eat on a gluten-free diet.
This is also on the book pages.
What you can eat on a gluten-free diet:
All fresh fruit and vegetables, dried peas and beans.
All fresh meat and fish, milk, plain yogurt, eggs, butter, cheese.
Potato and rice.
Olive oil, corn oil, lard
Rice, easy cook rice, brown rice, ground rice, rice flour, pure rice noodles, pure rice pasta, wild rice.
Maize, maize flour, cornflour(maize).
Sorghum flour, teff flour, quinoa, buckwheat.
Sweet chestnut puree and flour.
Cream of tartar, bicarbonate of soda.
All herbs, all fresh spices.
Sago and tapioca. Agar, arrow root.
Black List: What you must not eat
DO NOT EAT wheat flour, wholemeal flour, oatmeal, rye flour, durum, strong flour, granary flour, semolina, barley flour, self raising
flour, spelt flour, bulgar, triticale, couscous., or any product that may contain them.
DO NOT EAT any pastas such as spaghetti, macaroni, lasagne.
DO NOT EAT any bread, cakes, biscuits, sweets, rusks, pastry, pies, breakfast cereals wheat germ or vitamin E pills. (except in
the safe list)
DO NOT DRINK beer, stout, lager or cloudy lemonade.
Many manufactured foods contain starch from wheat! DO NOT EAT products that contain starch, food starch, edible starch or
modified starch such as sausages, sauce mixes, curry mixes, packet and tinned soups, dried meals, gravy mixes, stock cubes,
baking powder mixes, soy sauce. (except in the safe list)
BEWARE of any products that may use starch as a filler such as mustard powder and white pepper. Some products contain
unspecified sweeteners and stabilisers. These may be chemically modified wheat flour.
Wheat flour can get in to products where you don't expect it. Some manufactured potato chips contain wheat flour!
Warning - this list is not comprehensive - this is not medical advice.
Peter
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| Re: baby and diet changes
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My son has had a bad stomach since birth. The Dr told me it was reflux, baby indigestion. He brought his milk back after some feeds amd wouldn't sleep on his back and would scream in pain for hours. Now at 7months I have noticed that if I feed him food which contains GLUTEN he gets more dirty nappies than usual instead of one dirty nappy a day it is around 3-4. He also goes off his food and wants only his milk. Should I be concerned and stop gluten products altogether. Should I take him to the DRs for an allergy test, as he's at the age where I'm supposed to try him with any food but I dont want to feed him foods that cause him pain.
Michelle
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| Re: baby and diet changes
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My son has had a bad stomach since birth. The Dr told me it was reflux, baby indigestion. He brought his milk back after some feeds amd wouldn't sleep on his back and would scream in pain for hours. Now at 7months I have noticed that if I feed him food which contains GLUTEN he gets more dirty nappies than usual instead of one dirty nappy a day it is around 3-4. He also goes off his food and wants only his milk. Should I be concerned and stop gluten products altogether. Should I take him to the DRs for an allergy test, as he's at the age where I'm supposed to try him with any food but I dont want to feed him foods that cause him pain.
Michelle
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