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| Heart Fibrillation
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I have discovered that whenever I eat foodstuffs containing artificial flavorings (ie Monosodium Glutomate and variants) and too much gluten (ie more than 2 slices of bread per day) that my heart goes into fibrillation.
Because of earlier surgery on my mitral valve I already am on 300mg Aspirin, so I have no worries on that score, but my cardiologist also prescribes Amioderone as it has been assumed that my heart naturally tries to go into fibrillation.
It takes about 36 hours for the effects of the intake to subside as the gluten-based nutrients work their way out of my system.
Does anyone else have any experience of this, or would they like to comment. On my next visit to my cardiologist I would like to confront the so-called expert with some good evidence from other sources !
It looks like I need to adopt a gluten-free diet
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| Re: Heart Fibrillation
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How can you montior it so closely
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| Re: Heart Fibrillation
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You might be interested in this book by Heather Stott:
“Active Again” sub-title “Clearing my chronic fatigue and coeliac minefield”
She says:
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In the early years of illness I had numerous medical tests which were all negative then after two years I tested positive for Coeliac/Celiac Disease. Although a major step this was only one piece of the jigsaw. Getting the correct tests to isolate my other problems, which included 50 food allergies, took years.
Several causes of my chronic fatigue were inter-linked in a vicious circle. At times I was only treating one of the causes and not fully regaining my strength.
The symptoms I experienced were excruciating pains and twitchings in all my muscles, complete loss of senses of taste and smell, sensitivity to noise and cold, allergies, diabetes, hypoglycaemia, abnormal heart rhythm, hair, eyelashes and eyebrows falling out, fluid retention, bowel disturbances, leaky gut, bloating, stomach cramps, low body temperature, loss of concentration, loss of balance, rashes, sore tongue, dry prickly eyes, tinnitus, earache, shocks, eczema, aches and pains in my joints, persistent dry cough, numbness, tingling, osteoporosis and candida.
www.chronicfatiguesyndrome.co.uk
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| Re: Heart Fibrillation
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I have experimented with a gluten-free diet. Initially, it was wonderful for about 5 days. I felt better than I had done in the previous 5 years and the old ticker kept beating in sinus rhythm.
But from there it had terrible consequences for me. After 6 days, my heart went into AF again, and after 9 days of it, I was hyperventilating and even reported to hospital thinking that I was having a heart attack - there are similarities in the symptoms.
I decided that the gluten-free diet was not for me. I spent the next 5 days stuffing myself full of bread products, restoring the balance in my body, and my regular rhythm. I overshot a bit and have now reached the point of balance - perfect heart rhythm, eating about 2 slices of white bread a day and disallowing other gluten-based products.
So, my experience leads me to believe that there is condition of gluten intolerance where a gluten-low diet is the answer, not a gluten-free one.
Thanks for the two follow-ups
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| Re: Heart Fibrillation
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Have you been tested fpor CD/
There seems to be research to show Heart Disease & CD can be connected.
Please see here:
http://coeliac.info/suppboard/viewtopic.php?t=533
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| Re: Heart Fibrillation
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I am wondering if there are other diseases or intolerences which have the same symptoms as the allergy to gluten
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| Re: Heart Fibrillation
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i am on amioderone at present for a.f. this is causing problems with my liver function tests i am very interested in a gluten diet and any other foods that can cause fibrillation does anyone have a replacement drug for amioderone
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| Re: Heart Fibrillation
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I have had my mitrial valve replaced then a heart shock treatment to get it back in rythm, now a pacemaker for heart was fibrillating...Now Betapace and Lanoxin and Coumadin, have to take daily... They hope this will keep it in rythm...I am concerned for went to doctor today and he says it will get worse as I age...I was hoping I could get off Betapace and Lanoxin but guess this is for life...Does anyone have this same problem...Please write me if you do and how you are doing...I walk 2 miles daily and try to eat low fat diet...Let me hear...Anne
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| Re: Heart Fibrillation
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JUST READ YOUR POST..AND YES THIS HAS BEEN AND IS HAPPENING TO ME.. WENT TO THE DR YESTERDAY AND HE SAID HE WOULD TAKE TESTS FOR GLUTEN ,CANT REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE TEST , IT IS VERY SCARY AND WHEN YOU TELL PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING THEY DONT BELIEVE THAT FOOD CAN HAVE A REACTION ON THE HEART.. BLOOD TESTS DUE BACK NEXT WEEK.. WELL SEE HOPE YOU ARE FEELING BETTER CAROLE
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| Re Heart Fibrillation
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Hi
Yes,I am also on Amioderone and have been for 7 years.
It has just been discovered that the result of my blood test has shown that the Liver is far too high and my GP has faxed my Cardiologist regarding this and I am waiting for him to come back to me.
I have to go in quite often for a Cardio Version,where they stop the heart and start it at the correct rythm.
200mgs controls this,but when I drop down to 100mgs I go into fibrillation.
So I would also like some help regarding this.
Look forward to your answer by return.
Maureen Rule.
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| Re Heart Fibrillation
| Posted by Peter
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I could not locate any discussion of fibrillation being caused by gluten on the Medline database. The following study is of interest.
Peter
Title Risk of vascular disease in adults with diagnosed coeliac disease a population-based study.
Source Aliment Pharmacol Ther (Alimentary pharmacology & therapeutics.) 2004 Jul 1; 20(1) 73-9
Additional Info England
Standard No ISSN 0269-2813; NLM Unique Journal Identifier 8707234
Language English
Abstract BACKGROUND It has been suggested that vascular disease mortality may be reduced in coeliac disease because of lower levels of blood pressure, cholesterol and body mass. AIM To examine whether people with coeliac disease are at reduced risk of various vascular diseases. METHODS We identified 3,790 adults with diagnosed coeliac disease and 17,925 age- and sex-matched controls in the General Practice Research Database. We estimated odds ratios for diagnosed hypertension, hypercholesterolaemia and atrial fibrillation and hazard ratios for myocardial infarction and stroke. RESULTS Adults with coeliac disease, compared with controls, were less likely to have had a diagnosis of hypertension [11\% vs. 15\%, odds ratio 0.68 (95\% confidence interval 0.60-0.76)] or hypercholesterolaemia [3.0\% vs. 4.8\%, odds ration 0.58 (95\% confidence interval 0.47-0.72)] but slightly more likely to have had atrial fibrillation [2.1\% vs. 1.7\%, odds ratio 1.26 (95\% confidence interval 0.97-1.64)]. The hazard ratio for myocardial infarction was 0.85 (95\% confidence interval 0.63-1.13), while the hazard ratio for stroke was 1.29 (95\% confidence interval 0.98-1.70). CONCLUSIONS Although rates of myocardial infarction and stroke were not substantially different, adults with coeliac disease do have a lower prevalence of hypertension and hypercholesterolaemia compared with the general population. The effect of a gluten-free diet on cardiovascular risk factors should be determined before any screening programmes for coeliac disease are instituted.
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| Re Heart Fibrillation
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It was much interest that I found there was even a question about connection between heart fibrillation and celiac disease. I was diagnosed with CD in 1999 and since then have had at least seven episodes of AF . Because of my age the doctor wants me on meds permanently but since I have also serious damage done to my liver as a child I am really reluctant to load my liver with any more potential hazards. Has anyone found any natural remedies that replace warfarin besides aspirin. Please help.
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| Re Heart Fibrillation
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I have MVP and have had disturbing heart rhythms for over 20 yrs. ... A year and a half back, I found out (on my own) that I was gluten intolerant... since then I was tested for the gene, which was positive (my daughter has it also.. tends to run in families)... Gluten is definitely connected to abnormal rhythm to the gluten-sensitive... but there are other foods that are equally dangerous ... the main ones are sugar and caffeine .... If you went into a serious bout even off gluten, it is probable that you were eating something else that triggered the same reaction... you should try 100\% off gluten, 100\% off sugar, 100\% off caffeine, 100\% off dairy (ice cream, cheeses, etc) for 2 weeks then try adding dairy back in for a few days and see if it triggers an attack ... if not, dairy's okay... do the same with caffeine ...etc... Also, I read some time back in the Harvard Heart Letter that salmon oil prevents irreg. heartbeat... I've been taking Carlson's Norwegian salmon oil 2/day for years. Even when I was eating gluten, it helped reduce the number of episodes. Now that I'm off gluten and minimal dairy, sugar, caffeine, I rarely have a problem. Hope this helps. Claudia
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| Heart Fibrillation
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Hello Gang I'm a Celiac about 6 moths now starting to feel better. Is it true Celiacs can have Heart Failure or is that during the time of diagnoses which not being on a gluten free diet? Thanks For someone to respond to this
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Hello Gang I'm a Celiac about 6 moths now starting to feel better. Is it true Celiacs can have Heart Failure or is that during the time of diagnoses which not being on a gluten free diet? Thanks For someone to respond to this
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| Re Heart Fibrillation
| Posted by Jane Wilson
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Hi Claudia,
I have been looking for the Carlson norwegian Salmon that you have mentioned and I have not been able to find it in the UK, or on the internet where they will ship to the UK. Please could you tell me where you have been able to find it.
Many thanks
Jane
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| Re: Heart Fibrillation
| Posted by Nyssa Backhouse
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I was initially put on amioderone for a.f. but found the side effects affected my quality of life I am now on sotalol which I tolerate alot better and with complimentary medicines have managed to reduce my amount from the diagnosed 40 mg a day to between 20-30 depending on symptoms and what I'm up to physically. It may be worth discussing with your doctor the possibility of trying this instead...? I hope my message helps
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| Heart Fibrillation
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Just arriving at these same conclusions....doing bioidentical hormone replacement therapy.....hormones drive the bus, so it seems. If we are out of progesterone and estrogen, adrenal glands work 'overtime' and CAN also cause the glucose intolerance. MSG, chocolate, coffee, wine (sulfites), and heaven only knows what else....my episodes can last 3 days....if I eat chocolate the day after an episode stops, I don't have symptoms....it builds up, as you are suggesting.....7 days, 10 days, and then the Afib starts...body seems to then 'detox' during the episode and then all is quiet..until cycle starts up all over again. Check out the amazing site of Hans Larsen www.afibbers.org
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