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Moderated discussion and help for gluten free, coeliac, celiac, wheat allergies or intoleranceactioning query
Does maltodextrin contain gluten? I have seen this on the ingrediants of several food products but did not know if this was related to malt. What is maltodextrin, anyway? Also, does vinegar contain gluten? One piece I found said to avoid distilled vinegar and use only apple cider vinegar, but another piece I found said vinegar was fine. Any input would be appreciated.
Diane
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I use a wine vinegar.
Peter
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Peter, no ideas about Maltodextrin
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maltodextrin is a sugar. it is a polymer of glucose and is not related to malt but rather the sugar maltose so it is gluten free
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Maltodextrin is a hydrolysed starch and is not related to "Malt" which is a gluten-containing derivative of cereal grains - as in "Barely Malt
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I have experienced symtoms of liver toxicity (muscel problems followed by extreme skin rash) since I began replacing sugar with Splenda, which contains maltodextrin. Does this substance share characteristics of aspertame
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8) Maltodextrin is prepared as a white powder or concentrated solution by partial hydrolysis of corn starch or potato starch with safe and suitable acids and enzymes. (1) Maltodextrin, when listed on food sold in the USA, must be (per FDA regulation) made from corn or potato. This rule does NOT apply to vitamin or mineral supplements and medications. (2) Donald Kasarda Ph.D., a research chemist specializing on grain proteins, of the United States Department of Agriculture, found that all maltodextrins in the USA are made from corn starch, using enzymes that are NOT derived from wheat, rye, barley, or oats. On that basis he believes that celiacs need not be too concerned about maltodextrins, though he cautions that there is no guarantee that a manufacturer won't change their process to use wheat starch or a gluten-based enzyme in the future. (3) - May 1997 Sprue-Nik News
1. Federal Register (4-1-96) 21 CFR. Ch.1, Section 184.1444
2."Additives Alert", an information sheet from the Greater Philadelphia Celiac Support Group, updated early in 1997. This specific information comes from Nancy Patin Falini, the dietitian advisor for the group and a speaker at a national celiac conferences in the past few years.
3. From the CELLIAC Listserv archives, on the Internet, Donald D. Kasarda, posted November 6, 1996
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I don't know, but you are the first person I have found who has had a bad reaction to Splenda, besides my husband. He is a diabetic, and when Splenda was first showing up in store products he was thrilled. He drank all sorts of juice drinks with splenda. Prior to that he had not had any artificial sweetners. within 6 months he had lost 20\% of his kidney function. When he got off them, his next test 6 months later showed he had gone back up in kidney function to what he had been before the Splenda. Interresting huh
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Aspratame is anything but healthy. There is TONS of evidence stating this. Even though you might not feel the effects at first, long term effects will show. Maltodextrin has nothing to do with aspartame and is perfectly heallthy (and gluten-free
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isnt maltodextrin addictive -used in sour skittles and pringles
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is it bad for childens teeth as it an ingredient in one type of rice milk i buy?
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does maltodextrin contains gluten
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I ran across this group on the web. I do not have celiac disease. I am a healthy 50 y/o woman encountering increasing numbers of food allergies. Maltodextrin is being added into a significant amount of foods, seemingly those that are not eliminated from my food allergy diet to further decrease my cache of foods I can eat. I developed severe diarrhea and flatulance and traced it to maltodextrin. I now have eliminated maltodextrin from my diet some 6 months or so, with a resumption of symptoms if I eat something containing maltodextrin. I am not allergic to corn nor wheat. My known food allergies/sensitivities are presently dairy products (allergy and lactose intolerance) and yeast breads (which cause an asthmatic bronchitis). I have run across quite a few other individual testimonies on the internet relating the same reaction to maltodextrin. My physician does not yet have any information for me regarding this. I have a similar extreme reaction to malitol.
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Thanks you for your message board. It is very helpful.
Can you tell me if Maltodextrin is the same thing as Malt? I find it in my iced tea. And, is cola a product that should be avoided.
Another point that I am confused about: Do people with Celiacs tend to be over- or underweight prior to diagnoses. I would have thought that the IBS symthoms would cause weight loss, however, a friend was telling me that if I truly had Celiacs, I would be overweight as a result of being unable to process the flour. This does not make sense to me because white flour products tend to fly through my system... practically undigested.
Thanks!
-Laura
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I have the same reaction to Maltodextrin that Susan has. It's horrible and it's popping up in more an more foods. I went to natural foods, but because it's made from corn, it is appearing in more and more natural foods too. My best advice is to write letters to the peopel who make the products and let them know that this stuff is making you sick. For every letter they get hey can assume their are a dozen or so more people who didn't bother to write. If they get enough complaints maybe they'll go back to a more basic recipe and eliminate this junk form their ingredients.
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I am another sufferer from this hideous reaction to maltodextrin, with excruciating abdominal cramps then terrible diarrhoea. In Europe they are using it in more and more foods for people with allergies, including gluten free and dairy free foods, which is a disaster for me as I am already allergic to a lot of other foods. If you search the Internet for manufacturers of food additives, they all seem to be in Asia. Maltodextrin in particular seems to be mainly exported from China. Could they be producing a contaminated product? There have been a lot of scandals where I live (Italy) concerning toxic foods and toiletries from China, where hygiene and other regulations are usually regarded as a joke. Maltodextrin is manufactured by breaking down starch using enzymes or bacteria, including E coli and other types of bacteria which are known to cause very severe food poisoning; once the starch is broken down to sugar, these bacteria are supposedly inactivated by heat treatment. What if this heating treatment is botched? When maltodextrin is sold wholesale, the quantity of E coli remaining in the product is stated to prove that it is acceptably low - isn't that disgusting? I cannot really believe it is legal for something manufactured in such a repulsive way (just because it is cheaper than real sugar) to be put into food, including baby food - yes, my baby is allergic to dairy products and the only formula milk available for him contains maltodextrin.
If anyone else finds more information on this, plese share it on this website.
I will post more info if I manage to find out anything else of interest.
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I am another sufferer from this hideous reaction to maltodextrin, with excruciating abdominal cramps then terrible diarrhoea. In Europe they are using it in more and more foods for people with allergies, including gluten free and dairy free foods, which is a disaster for me as I am already allergic to a lot of other foods. If you search the Internet for manufacturers of food additives, they all seem to be in Asia. Maltodextrin in particular seems to be mainly exported from China. Could they be producing a contaminated product? There have been a lot of scandals where I live (Italy) concerning toxic foods and toiletries from China, where hygiene and other regulations are usually regarded as a joke. Maltodextrin is manufactured by breaking down starch using enzymes or bacteria, including E coli and other types of bacteria which are known to cause very severe food poisoning; once the starch is broken down to sugar, these bacteria are supposedly inactivated by heat treatment. What if this heating treatment is botched? When maltodextrin is sold wholesale, the quantity of E coli remaining in the product is stated to prove that it is acceptably low - isn't that disgusting? I cannot really believe it is legal for something manufactured in such a repulsive way (just because it is cheaper than real sugar) to be put into food, including baby food - yes, my baby is allergic to dairy products and the only formula milk available for him contains maltodextrin.
If anyone else finds more information on this, plese share it on this website.
I will post more info if I manage to find out anything else of interest.
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Hi Susan,
I also have and intolerance to maltodextrin. I learned this myself several years ago. I get stomach pains very soon after eating something, and the pain continues for several hours and takes about 24 hours to fully recover.
I have since discovered that splenda is made with maltodextrin and another problem I have is with sorbitol. I will have to evaluate malitol as well to see. I have a few other ingredients lists I have kept that I know have caused problems. Because of that list - I discovered sorbitol and have since confirmed it.
If I have maltodextrin by accident (I know because of symptoms then check labels of what I ate and sure enough - it will be maltodextrin!), I take an enzyme pill and that helps to relieve the symptoms greatly. Enzyme pills can be found in any pharmacy/drug area over the counter. It is similar to the pills that are available for the lactose intolerance - but made for other purposes, such as enzymes to break down carbohydrates, or etc. I keep these on hand and find them very important. The one that works the best for me is the papaya enzymes.
Like you, I do not have a problem with corn.
Congrats on your research and discovering your answers
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I started a diet about one year ago and started eating frozen meals and 100 calorie package snacks. After completing one of these snacks I experienced a serious reaction. I had diarrhea, nausea, palpitations and a sense of impending doom. Really thought I was going to die. After going through a process of elimination I learned it was maltodextrin that caused my reaction. One allergist I consulted told me there was no possible way that the maltodextrin caused my reaction. Another allergist believed me and gave me an Epipen to use in case of an emergency but admitted to not knowing anything about it.
Since having eliminated this from my diet, I am a new person. Frustrated though at seeing how many foods contain this ingredient and how unknown the dangers of this substance really are
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Maltodextrin although from a gluten containing ingredient is supposed to be so processed that it can be considered gluten free. But I think it depends on how tolerant you are. I know I have problems if I eat/drink anything with this kind of ingredient.
Also most coeliacs are underweight before diagnosis, due to the damage in the gut so you can't absorb food properly and the food just passes on through. I know I am only starting to put on a bit of weight again several months after being diagnosed.
hope this helps
Louise
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Maltodextrin/Splenda
I was amazed at the posts in regard to splenda. This may be my problem. I was diagnosed DH coelica about 5 years ago. Thought I had it pretty well under control, then my skin rash came back with evengence-with very bad hair loss. It could quite well be the splenda, as I introduced this to my diet about 18mths-2yrs ago, about the time I started having problems. I was about to introuduce a dry milk product - instead of dairy milk to our family, and noticed it had maltodextrin in it, so have email the supplier for their comment
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Susan,
I have experienced the same symptoms every time I eat foods with maltodextrin. I do not have any known food allergies, but the symptoms I am experiencing have gotten worse. In addition to diarrhea and flatulance I have very painful abdominal cramps and vomitting. I am anxious to hear from other people who may be having the same symptoms.
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Hi Susan
I do have Irritable Bowel Syndrome and am having the same sort of trouble as yourself with Maltodextrin but I have also been ill for 2 days now and wondered why until I read your notes about Maltitol, I only ate 2 squares of the chocolate. Just as well I didn't eat any more. I too have intolerances and have been told to stay away from wheat, yeast, sugar,aspartame, monosodium glutamate to name but a few. I cannot believe that man made sweetners can cause so much trouble. Perhaps its not the other things in my diet that have been the cause of my problems and that I have been advised to stay away from for three months and then introduce slowly - with the emphasis on slowly - back into my diet
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Hi all,
I have found that maltodextrin contains MSG due to the hydrolysis process that creates it. The MSG is what causes the huge awful stomach problems that I have, along with headaches, itchy rashes and other symptoms. I have done extensive research on my own to determine what MSG is and how it is created through processing.
Good luck all!
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Hi Susan and others,
I was interested to see your comments about malto dextrin. I have IBS and lote of food intolerances including gluten and lactose. I have been unwell for a few days and couldn`t work out what it was. I checked the label of a new soy milk that I am drinking and then went to the net to see a about malto dextrin. I have the same symtoms as you, maybe it`s this
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I have experienced the same thing. I have no food allergies at all and last year all of a sudden after eating ice cream which i have eaten my whole life, i got extreme stomach cramps, extreme sweating, extreme diarrhea and I tend to pass out usually which is scarey when i am on my own. I have narrowed it down to Maltodextrin because if i eat ice cream that doesnt have that ingredients im fine.
I am so frustrated because i am scared to even go out to dinner in case i get diarrhea from something. Not long ago my husband and I went to dinner at a restaurant and I was ok while we were out but not long after i got home I got so sick....imagine if it happened when i was out. Am i suppose to ask the waiter everytime i go somewhere if any of my meal contains maltodextrin???
Im very frustrated about it and it has changed the way i live. I am glad to know that i am not the only one. No doctor has ever been able to tell me whats wrong with me they just told me not to eat ice cream anymore.
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I became lactose intolerant in 2002 at the age of 22. Soon after I also realized I was still having horrible bloating, gas, cramping and diahrrea. I figured out that it was caused by foods containing dextrose and maltodextin. I have tried to cut it out of my diet, but it is in everything! I just realized a few wks ago that iodized salt has dextrose in it. I also don't eat out often because it is a risk. I just turned 29 and was diagnosed with Celiac Disease. I think my body hates me. I have the same reactions from doctors and other people when I tell them that I have an intolerance to dextrose and maltodextrin, they don't believe me. It's great to know that I am not alone
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I became lactose intolerant in 2002 at the age of 22. Soon after I also realized I was still having horrible bloating, gas, cramping and diahrrea. I figured out that it was caused by foods containing dextrose and maltodextin. I have tried to cut it out of my diet, but it is in everything! I just realized a few wks ago that iodized salt has dextrose in it. I also don't eat out often because it is a risk. I just turned 29 and was diagnosed with Celiac Disease. I think my body hates me. I have the same reactions from doctors and other people when I tell them that I have an intolerance to dextrose and maltodextrin, they don't believe me. It's great to know that I am not alone
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There are plenty of people who are very sensitive to tiny traces of these substances in food.
The easy way is to only eat the basic natural foods - fresh fruit, vegetables, fish, meat. A very healthy diet. You don't need to eat food out of tins, packets or jars!!
Your body doesn't hate you. It doesn't like these substances! Don't fight it, look after it.
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I sent a post to this discussion a long time ago and I am amazed to see how many other people since then have described the same reaction to maltodextrin or, in may cases, symptoms even worse than mine.
Since nobody's doctor seems to know anything about this, I am planning to print this whole discussion out and take it to my gastroenterologist with a strong suggestion he tries to investigate maltodextrin to find an explanation. Perhaps if we all do that we may make some progress?
I recently had treatment for bacterial overgrowth in the small intestine, which consisted of taking an antibiotic for 2 weeks to kill off the bacteria there and then taking probiotics for a long time to try to repopulate the gut with lactobacillus and other gut-protective bacteria. After this, I found my reaction to Maltodextrin and dextrose was much milder. It has gradually got worse again but I definitely think there could be something in this.
Has anyone else had a similar experience
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Taylor, the diarrhea could have caused a drop in electrolytes, particularly magnesium. Read up on magnesium deficiency and deficiencies of the other electrolytes including potassium, calcium, sodium and chloride. The impending sense of doom is quite common for someone suffering from magnesium or electrolyte deficiency just before their body shuts down electrically... you will find how the palpitations can relate.. read the book Sinatra Solution: Metabolic Cardiology by Dr. Stephen Sinatra - especially the section on magnesium
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| Posted by Stephanie Martinez
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So I"m not crazy... I have been trying to figure out for months what has caused my digestive symptoms.. Have been gluten free for one year, and since that time I have noticed an increase in food intolerances including dairy.. I also FINALLY traced my symptoms to maltodextrin.. I was eating peanut butter as well as soy ice cream and noticed that both gave me excessive gas and bloating.. I'm going to bet it's the maltodextrin... Wow, nice to know that someone else has same symptoms
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| Posted by Mary
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I have an intolerance for lactose as a result of acute gastroenteritis 2+ years ago. My doctor is suspecting I may have celiac's disease because of the antibodies present, however, I have no problem eating gluten. I believe that the gastro has stripped out more than the lactase from my gut. The reaction to maltodextrin is probably a result of that and a bowel probiotic from the health store can deal with that, I believe
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| Posted by Mary
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This is a further instalment. I was using the probiotic from the health store but not getting any better. In fact, the diarrhea and flatulence worsened. Then I discovered that the probiotic had maltodextrin in it
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| Posted by Trudy Hall
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I'm a young 65-year-old female who figured out from the internet about my intolerance to maltodextrin. After having to call 911 and being hospitalized for two days about a year and a half ago going through heart tests, an esophageal scope and dilation, and still having the same symptoms four months later, I was so happy to find postings from people like you which helped me self-diagnose my problem. I looked at the ingredients in Slim-Fast which I was drinking every morning, and there was maltodextrin!
When I eat something with maltodextrin, there's a bad pressure in my chest, and it feels like someone's pressing on my adam's apple (if women have adam's apples). Real ice cream (not ice milk), custards, and puddings have a similar reaction, but I'm ok with other dairy products. Even back to the age of 19 I've had IBS (back then they termed it "spastic colon").
I was visiting with my dogs' vet about their allergies and told him I recently discovered I'm allergic to maltodextrin, and he said it happens mostly in people who have an allergy to corn. Since I was a kid, my nose severely itched when I chewed gum (with corn syrup), had fried chicken (cooked in corn oil), ate corn on the cob, ate bread (with corn meal) or was served egg nog with "corn" liquor. The vet's been the only "doctor" who's known anything about the maltodextrin allergic reactions.
After eating a packaged brownie night before last, I again ended up in the E.R. yesterday undergoing heart tests (which came out fine) all because the allergic symptoms of excessive sweating, chest pain, and nausea are so similar to symptoms of heart attacks. I'm as frustrated as all of you in the proliferation of the use of maltodextrin in so many products.
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| Posted by Erica
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I am so confused int rying to figure out whats wrong with me. I have been fighting stomach issues for ever it seems and none of the doctors can figure it out. I have 1 celiac gene so they say so i may be gluten sensitive but they dont know. Not all breads seem to affect me.
I recently realized that I am not allergic to milk, but ffod like processed ice cream, starbucks frappacino, and smoothies (jamba juice etc {even without dairy} seem to make me sick.
One common ingredient seems to be maltodextrin. But i hear its safe as long as its from corn or rice. I also have been diagnosed with IBS but am now wondering if its not something i just need to avoid. For example, last night i just ate salad and jello with cool whip and had an awful reaction.....
I have developed asthma, have had a rash that the doctors could not figure out, nor would it go away without use of prednazone (sp).
I cant stand the constand bloating.
Recently i have been getting headaches, worse i have had pressure build-ups similar to the feeling when you hang up side down, although i dont hang upside down. any ideas
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| Posted by Tina
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I have a reaction to Maltodextrin also. I have reacted with an acne rash over my entire face, and chest. Does not itch. Discovered when I had been taking digestive enzymes that listed Maltodextrin. I am now on a Gluten Free diet, which is difficult, because some of the things they say do not have gluten, give me trouble. It's just hit and miss for me
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| Re: Maltodextrin
| Posted by Victoria
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Sandra,
Thanks for your post. What exactly is that enzyme called? I need to get that. If I accidently consume Maltodextrin ever again my family threatens to throw me out of the house until all the gas passes. I get the most horrible, uncontrollable antisocial noxcious intestional gas from that wicked Maltodextrin. It's so bad I hate myself until it passes. Im afraid to go out in pubic because its so bad and so embarassing, so finding out what exactly you are using that helps would be wonderful. Thank you
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| Posted by Victoria
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The FDA approved Nutrasweet (aspartame) and everyone swore up and down that it was a harmless natural sweetner until tons of people who consumed it regularly were getting severe headaches and brain tumors. Finally people researching this product found it was an arsenic! Splenda was discovered by mixing INSECTICIDE! The person mixing it was told to "test it" and he thought they said "taste it" so he dipped his finger in it and tasted it and said it was "sweet like sugar." We've been consuming pestacides and poisons that were FDA approved for years. I would not be surprised if eventually someone starts testing Maltodextrin and finally confirms how harmful it is
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| Re: Maltodextrin
| Posted by Victoria
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Tina,
I get the same type of facial rash from products that contain red dye--culprits are typically candies--such as runts, nerds, skittles, etc.--any type of artifically colored candy like that, also jello, and drinks that have red dye either with artificial sweetner or sugar. I wondered what was causing this as it was sporadic not a regular thing so I knew it had to be something I was eating infrequently. I tracked it down to products containing the red dye and either sugar or artifical sweetner--both cause the same rash--it doesnt' matter about the sweetner type, it seems to be the food dye
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| Re: Maltodextrin
| Posted by Kate
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Yes, I have substituted the STEVIA products as a sweetener with very good
results (so far)
Just an option to consider
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| Posted by Maria Z
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I too have gotten to the point where I can not move with out my whole entire body aching in pain.....symptoms of Fibromyalgia just like with what happens with Aspartame. I am going to stop using Splenda and see if my symptoms go away. Every muscle in my body aches and I truly think its the Splenda. A couple of months ago I ran out and was using regular sugar for about 3 weeks and looking back now.....I realize that my symptoms were not as bad and my depression lifted considerably. Lets face it.......we keep hoping for the perfect replacements for REAL foods and its just not gonna happen. If its not REAL FOOD than its not good for us
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| Re: Maltodextrin
| Posted by susan King
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maltodextrin makes me very ill... and as I read this I see that it just came on the market 2008... I thought i had some kind of food poiosioning.. Maldodextrin is made from echoli and that is exactly how ill I get.. as if I have food poisioning.
Does anyone have a list of current and popular foods that are now using it ??
My last exposure was the Welch's dark grapejuice... full of it !! Guess I won't be able to take communion anymore... hahaha
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| Re: Maltodextrin
| Posted by julia platt
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I have recently been diagnosed with celiac disease. I have been overweight for most of my adult life and havn't been able to explain it. I have suffered with severe constipation, severe hair thinning, itchy skin, bloating and stomache cramps. Since going gluten free these have stopped. My doctor started me on calcium tabs with vit d in them and had sever wind/cramps that lasted about 12 hrs. I didn't take them the next day and was fine. After taking them again and getting the same symptoms i looked at the list of ingredients and maltodextrin was listed. I have now noticed that anything containing maltodextrin has the same effects. I have read on the internet that maltodextrin sourced in the EU is probably made from wheat whereas in the USA it is made from corn, potato or rice.http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/faqs/f/Maltodextrin.htm
Check it out. There is so much conflicting info that it baffles the brain
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