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actioning query| Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by |
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I have been on a wheat free diet for two years, (after many years of suffering I went and got checked out) now I discover that I can't tolerate rice (I was mainly using rice flour). Surfing the net I found a common denominator which also is found in nut shells. So I am in desperate need of receips that dont use wheat, barley, oats, rye, lentils, rice, nuts - any info would be really appreciated
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by |
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Valerie, have you checked the recipes on peters site: http://www.peter-thomson.co.uk/foodc/contents.html on the left hand site are good recipes, which might be good for you. good luck! runni
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by |
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Can you tolerate other legumes, like chick peas and soya beans? If so, you might cook and grind either (chick pea for starch meal, soya for protein) into a paste add sodium bicarbonate (if you wish can be left out) as a raising agent plus egg yolk (can you tolerate dairy?) and cook in a frying pan to make a type of flat bread. Add herbs such as corriander/cilantro etc. for variation. Good luck! Alison
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by Woz |
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Can you have Millet or Quinoa
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by |
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Thanks for your reply, the answer is yes to both. I have tried them, during the summer it was easy to go without any 'filling' foods, now winter is beginning I will go back to using both
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by |
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Thanks for advice, I have tried using various mixtures to try to make flat type breads, some work better than others. I can use eggs but find my body does not like too much dairy so I hardly use it. Mind you if I do use cheese I have to have it by mid-day or I cant sleep at night
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by Peter |
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It is often very difficult to analyse a diet to determine what is causing the problem. One of the main causes of food intolerance is soya and its byproducts such as lecithin. These can get into so many different products - even into chocolate bar. It also appears in many products as vegetable fat. Before you decide that you have developed an allergy to other foods and restrict your diet even further, try cutting out ALL manufactured foods, and try and base your meals on different foods each day - with just a few types of food each day. rice, egg, apple today plain fish, potato, orange tomorrow maize, beef, banana the next dayand so on. Don't add manufactured sauces of any description. Drink plain water. Keep an accurate diary of what you have eaten and your state of health. Then discuss it with your GP before making any decissions to change your diet. Peter
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by Woz |
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Valerie, was the common denominator phytic acid? It can be removed form almonds and seeds. Seeds need to be soaked over night at least. Almonds need to be blanched for just a few seconds so you can peel off the phytic acid containing skins. White almond butter is ok to eat but not brown because the brown contains the skins
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by |
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In relation to your intolerance to rice and grains could you advise why it took so long for this daignosis?. My own health has not been great . Over the last two years I have suffered from stomach bloating,agitation and moodiness. My doctor has suggested that I suffer from a wheat intolerance or pesticidee intolerance. I'm currently eating only organic foods, meat,vegetables etc and am on a wheat free, gluten free diet. I tried wheat free pasta, but my symptons returned. I then tried organic rice, with organic chicken and organic sauce..again my symptons returned This si driving me crazy ..help
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by Peter |
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There is another possibility, that you suffer from a 'leaky gut'. That is that your gut lets through larger molecules than it should, and these can trigger an imune response. You could try avoiding any foods that have been ground up into flour - such as are used in sauces, and stick to fresh fish, fresh fruit and fresh vegetables, and see if your symptoms decrease. Soya is another ingredient that gets into a lot of manufactured foods and can trigger an imune response. Peter
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by |
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Rice has not been my on my regular diet, so there was one time when i started eating rice as my staple food. however, i noticed that i started feeling bloated and edemic and besides that, i started developing rashes.Could these be some of the symptoms which indicates my intolerence to rice?are there any test that could be done to confirm this
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by |
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I've been avoiding wheat & dairy productts for years. Internal bleeding only got better when I stopped eating rice. Almonds & other nuts are painful. My food list is getting smaller. Any ideas
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by |
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My eyes swell even after omiting gluten and wheat, i ate rice that day, could this be the cause
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| Re Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by Peter |
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Intolerance to rice can happen, but you need to take care not to reduce the variety you eat too much. Try eating as wide a variety of different foods as possible and in different combinations every day. Keep a notebook of exactly what you eat and what symptoms you get. That might help track doen the problem. peter
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| Re Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by Patricia Brazil |
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I have just had the results of a test for food intolerance by York Test. I am told I should avoid gluten, wheat, millet rice, buckwheat & corn, but that there was no reaction to barley, oats & rye. Can anyone explain this as I know gluten is in these three grain, although I understand oats can sometimes be tolerated by coeliacs. Trish
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| Re Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by Peter |
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Gluten is present in barley and rye, and in a slightly different form in oats. Buckwheat comes from the rhubarb family, no relation to the grass seeds at all.- and is a little bit indigestible for everyone. A little while ago the consumers association sent identical biological samples to be tested by a number of 'consumer' intolerance laboratories.( but sent in by several different people, so the laboratories didn't knoww they were the same ) They did not come back with the same allergies identified. Be guided by your own medical doctor and eat a wide variety of fresh fruit and vegetables. Peter
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| Re Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by Katrin |
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Why don't you use spelt flour? Spelt is the ancient wheat and I tolerate it just fine. It takes a bit of getting used to as you have to start to make your own bread and pasta/pizza, but basically just use that instead of other flour.
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| Re Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by Katrin |
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Why don't you use spelt flour? Spelt is the ancient wheat and I tolerate it just fine. It takes a bit of getting used to as you have to start to make your own bread and pasta/pizza, but basically just use that instead of other flour.
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by apatura |
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i have been reading up on food combining and read somewhere about being able to eat food that you couldnt eat before, now i cant find it... anyways all the help i can get would be greatly apreciated. about 10 years ago i started having digestive probs, couldnt eat pork lamb fatty foods then 6 years ago when i was 31 i was diagnosed with bowel cancer did radiation, surgery and chemo. now every year the list of foods i find i cant eat gets longer so far it is. pork lamb shellfish wheat soya oats all citrus fruits anything with heavy fat like cream mayo, some addatives. one of my biggest problems is living in a country where i cant really get diffrent types of grain, its brown or white flour and selection on foods isnt so great so i dont have much choice. if i follow food combining would my symptoms ease (constant discomfort, bloating, diarrhoea, fatigue) and should i try re introducing foods like oranges, berries.
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by Peter |
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You should discuss the possibility of coeliac condition, or gluten-intolerance with your doctor. Damage to the digestive system caused by the gluten can result in the other symptoms that you describe.
Another possibility is 'leaky gut syndrome' where your digestive system starts to absorb molecules that haven't been fully digested, and again the resulting inflamation causes further damage to the gut. One possible indicator of this condition is where you can taste these food molecules in your own saliva several hours after eating a meal - particularly with strongly flavoured cheese. Avoid all fine flour - eat rice rather than rice flour, avoid anything made with a fine flour. Slowing down the process of digestion in this way may ease symptoms.
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by clinton |
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for the past 5 or 6 years ive been experiencing intolerance to wheat,maize,oats and other cereal.generally these foods have a diaretic effect on me,as an alternative ive been eating rice thins,but lately it has been having a constipating effect along with cocoa,i do nt understand why that is.can anyone shed some light?
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by Kate Riggle |
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For the past 5 years my ability to eat starchy foods is diminishing. I have a very hard and painful time eating whole wheat, brown rice, corn, AP flour, rye products, oats. Can anyone help me on feeling better? Is there anything I can do to make it better? My doctor thinks I am making this up and told me to get my head examined.
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by Peter |
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There is a condition called leaky gut syndrome where you can get a reaction to any finely ground flour. The irritation in the gut can persist for several days and make you think there is a reaction to other foods as well. Particularly to more fibrous foods.
You need to experiment a little and see if there is a style of eating that avoids these problems. For example cut all flour out of your diet, or anything made with flour. Also cut out anything with gluten in case this is the source of the problem. Have a look at the gluten-free diet pages on this site. Eat fresh fruit, vegetables, meat and fish - that will keep you healthy - and see if your symptoms disappear. Give it a month at least before you make up your mind.
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by Mrs. B |
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I've been cooking starch free for my husband for some years/ Do get a hold of "Breaking the Cycle" (maybe Vicious Cycle) by the late Elaine Gotschalll.
Also the Grain Free Gourmet by Jody can't remember her last name but just google "grain free gourmet." I make Lois Lang's bread (with almond flour, butter, dry currd cottage cheese aka farmer's cheese in the US and eggs) on a flat cookie sheet, lined with parchment and sprayed with vegetable spray. I follow the recipe, flatten the batter out under a piece of plastic wrap for easy handling. I sometimes top with sesame or poppy seeds and a little kosher salt. Pop it into a 350 degree oven for about 17 minutes. When it's cooled, my husband splits it and toasts it. Fabulous. Check out the Pumpkin cookies in Elaine's book - I use squash and lots of nice spices and raisins and nuts. And the carrot cake - again lots of spices raisins and nuts. I also make Jody's waffles with almond flour. These recipes alone have made my husband's diet so much easier amd more palatable. PS I DO NOT USE honey. He can't digest it. So I by the Black RIver Juice company's concentrated liquid fruit sweetener. Perfect. Good luck
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| Re: Intolerance to grains and rice | Posted by Jon (from Australia |
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After 30 years of poor digestion (bloating, loose bowels etc), I've recently alleviated most of my symptoms (incl osteoarthritis) under the direction of a medical scientist. He believes that I suffer from "pseudo-celiac syndrome" which produces celiac symptoms from a much broader range of foods than just those containing gluten.
The regime involves an initial diet of just meat, fish and eggs (with a little grapeseed oil or olive oil, and white sugar if needed). Then you add two well-cooked veges at a time, every few days, monitor your reactions, and reject any you don't tolerate. Next you add cooked fruits then graduate to raw veges and raw fruits. Eventually you add dairy and, last, grains. The idea is that as you eliminate foods you can't tolerate, your immune system strengthens, your guts repair and you broaden the range of foods you can tolerate. There might be some foods you will never fully tolerate (most likely grains and dairy). The food-introduction sequence is important. As far as I understand it, it is based on the natural food tolerance development of babies post-weaning. This is only a very brief summary of the treatment. I've been on the regime for about 3 months but have not followed it strictly. Overall, the results have been very good. The foods I've found I can't tolerate are: wheat (incl glucose from wheat), maize/polenta, soy beans (incl soy lecithin), peas (fresh and dried), cannellini beans, potatoes, buckwheat, millet, citrus fruit, dried fruit with preservatives. Foods OK: meat, fish, eggs, sugar, all veges raw or cooked (except peas and potatoes), all cooked fruit, dried figs (with no preservatives), ginger, almonds, peanuts, tapioca/sago/arrowroot. Haven't tried yet: rye, barley, oats, spelt, lentils. I've been largely dairy-free for 20+ years. Basically, from long observation and my recent experimentation, I agree with Peter's support for a diet of fresh fish, veges and fruit. But for me, for extra energy, I'd add dried fruit (no preservatives), good quality vege/seed oil, and cakes made from arrowroot and almond meal. I know this would work for me, but of course everyone is different
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