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 New Maps of Crete  Posted by Peter
br>For the new maps the site has changed to:
http://www.anavasi.gr

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 New Maps of Crete  Posted by Kurt Bolghaug
Next year I will spend 3-4 weeks going Crete from east to west. Some places I will follow the E4 path. Other places other tracks. And some places roads.

I have tried search for the site www.mountains.gr, looking for the new maps, but the page cannot be found.

Is it the correct adress?

regards

Kurt Bolghaug

Norway

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 Looking for an old friend  Posted by Stephen Matthews
Jenni- Sorry I can't help. Billy is a friend of mine too from my Plymouth days. I went to visit him and Doug in Crete in 94 but have lost touch. Would love to speak to him again.

Do let me know if you find him.



Best Wishes



Stephen

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 New Maps of Crete  Posted by Krzysztof Soko³owski
Coordinates in GGRef System you can find on Anavasi site, it is in greek, but we are interesting only in numbers. This numbers can be set in your GPS manually, and be used in field with paper map. Or when you vectorize that paper map, on GPS (Colorado/Oregon) screen, with map.

Krzysztof Soko³owski

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 HORSE-RIDING ON CRETE  Posted by Anna Jackson
br>I just want to warn people that the stables in Georgioupoli, crete aren't great......their horses are really thin, and they seem to be really disorganised before the rides too, I was waiting up there for a long time before the ride. Some of the stalls inside didn't look like they'd been mucked out in a long time either.

Just a note to remember to check out the stables you intend to ride at before you book if it's possible!!! Or research before you go!!!!



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 Re E4 path through Crete  Posted by Nicholas Fry
We are staying in a house in Afrata on the Rodopou peninsula and have found a copy of your guide on the shelf. It looks very interesting but unfortunately my Norwegian is not good enough to read it. Can you tell me if there is an English version available, either of the book or just of the text?



Regards

Nicholas Fry

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 Tripiti Gorge  Posted by harald øhrn
I have previously walked from Koustogerako to Xiloskalo. On this walk I had some terric views into the Tripiti Gorge and it has stuck with me ever since. I want to see what it´s like down there! I realize that descending from then saddle is not for me, but climbing is not essential. I´d be happy to work my way up from the see from Ahios Nikolas and then return the same way, but I can´t find any reports on how it´s like. Is there somebody out there who has any experience with ?



Hopefully



Harald from Norway

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 Adding links to this site  Posted by suzanne barbour
Hi



I would like you to put a link to our website on your page - http://www.walkwithdonkeys.com







Walking Holidays Crete



We will of course put a reciprocal link on our site



Many thanks



Alistair and Suzann



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 HORSE-RIDING ON CRETE  Posted by Anna Maria
I am going every year to Crete and i like walking and horse riding. I did several walking tours all over the island in differend seasons. Last year i did the Lassithi trail on horse back. It was more than beautiful. I found about this trail ride by accident during hiking on Crete. I met riders and horses on top of the Dikti mountains in the Lassithi area. When i did the trail i saw Crete as i never saw before. Hight mountains , green valeys, beautiful small villages, blue sea , friendly people,good food and lovely - lively horses. Our guides Manolis and Sabine gave us an unforgetable week. Their hotel and stables are more than hotel and stables. Is a place on paradise. Visit their site www.horseriding.gr

I am happy that found this place.



Anna Maria

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 HORSE-RIDING ON CRETE  Posted by kath, ren & nic
Horse riding near Plakias,

We have found a lovely place that we can fully recommend to anyone looking for a fun time on horse back, we had a nice ride for an hour and a half through olive groves down to the beach, across the beach and than back again the farm is only open in the morning until 1pm, as they are considerate to the horses tiredness and welfare. We found the farm to be clean, the horses to be well fed and very well cared for, which was not like a farm we saw in Georgioupoli.

the contact number is Barbara on from the UK 00302832031196, 32033,32034 fax 302832031197

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 Re E4 between Sougia and Agia Roumeli  Posted by Jonathan
Hi Audrey



If you want to quickly get a feel for what the worst of the walk will be like, start from Agia Roumeli. You'll know in the first 10 minutes whether this walk is for you (see my post above). The exposed section many people have referred to above is no worse (arguably better) than the sloping traverse over the loose gravels above the cliffs above Roumeli.



Treat it like general mountain walking, i.e. with respect and you'll be fine. I assume you tackled Gingilos from Xyloscala, in which case if you remember the section just through the arch where it is badly eroded/landslip and you have a few metres across a narrow sloping path (big drop to left) covered in small, loose rocks, then if you managed that, you'll be okay on the E4 coastal path (which has a couple of similar sections - see my post above). The rest of the E4 is fine so long as you keep to the path (which generally follows the best lines anyway). Plan your water supplies according to the time of year. I certainly wouldn't do it in high summer when the heat is brutal, but on a cool, autumn day you'd find it very enjoyable and probably very easy. We had full packs and were fine across the 2 short exposed sections.



Camp on Klados beach, just wonderful!



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 Re: HORSE-RIDING ON CRETE  Posted by Zefiros
Try Zefiros

Zefiros is located at Tersanas, in the region of Akrotiri. Tersanas is only 20 minutes from the main regional town of Chania.



http://www.mjpr.com/zefiros

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 Re E4 between Sougia and Agia Roumeli  Posted by Audrey
Hello,



I am REALLY getting mixed messages about the route between Ag Roumeli and Sougia. I have walked the west and south coast, walked several gorges and been up Gingilos and this section in the missing link. I plan to take it easy over 2 days and will be with one other person. If it is too dangerous I plan to walk up the Samaria Gorge, across the Omalos Plain then loop round down the Irini Gorge and finally out at Sougia. Can anyone help?? I will have a full pack on.



Thanks.

Audrey

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 Re E4 between Sougia and Agia Roumeli  Posted by Jonathan
Did this walk a couple of weeks ago (late May 2008). Our day actually started at Omalos and we walked down Samaria, halted in Agia Roumeli and then set off for the Domata Beach at Klados at 4pm where we would camp for the night.



Much has been made of how long this walk should take, some estimates on here saying 8 hours. I think this depends hugely on your circumstances. In the summer and with heavy packs (like us) it takes much longer as you're caught in a vicious circle of your pack weight making you sweat, so you have to make more water, so your pack is heavier and so on. We carried 6 litres each with the target of fresh supplies at Tripiti. Our supplies held - just. Fortunate that we ran into the beekeeper with the donkey who lives by the beach just east of Tripiti.



As for the walk itself. It's fine as long as you're on the path - things get rather tricky if you lose the path as we did twice.



Starting from behind Roumeli you have a very exposed and slippery traverse across a steeply sloping mountainside of compacted soil, mantled by a thin veneer of loose gravel and a cliff edge a few feet to your left. It's the sort of slope that makes you think that a one big slip could send you over the edge. You just have to ignore the danger and put one firm put in front of another. Fortunately, things improve and a better made path crosses a rockfall before a steep climb up a made but in places broken zig-zag path up a rocky gully through the trees. Emerging over the top you track the coast with the sea far below. The path is mantled in loose stone and dances inbetween spikey shrubbery which bites your legs. A very minor gorge causes no problems but a medium size gorge now separates you from the hills above Klados. At this point you're nearly 600 metres above sea level and are now faced with a rocky descent into this gorge and a climb up the other side. Alhtough navigating from the Loraine Wilson book and the Anavasi 1:25k map, we were led to believe we had to head a distance north into the gorge and then descend. It was at this point we lost the E4. We didn't know whether it was above or below us. We decided to descend through a steep concoction of loose rocks, gravel, solid rock and spikey vegetation into the gorge floor. Not very nice and rather bone-jarring. We then happened upon the E4 path pleasantly emerging from some trees when we reached the gorge floor. Perhaps the E4 descent is rather better than the one we were forced to make!



Anyway, another ascent up the other side of the gorge and then a long dscent into Klados. This was the end of a long day for us and the light was fading. The loose marbles mantling the footpath caused a few stumbles for very tired legs. We happened upon the cistern mentioned in the wilson book - the water was poor and not suitable to drink. Then steeply down to the beach at Klados where we just got the tent up before dark. Time to Klados with heavy packs (4 hours)



What a fabulous place for an overnight! We were totally on our own, the sounds of the waves breaking on the shore and the sheer peaceful, unspolitness of location made for the highlight of the trip.



Next day, an early start (7am) in an attempt to stay out of the sun for as long as possible before it rose above the mountains behind us. We were mindful of scare stories about a badly eroded section between Klados and Tripiti and so marched on, keen to get it over with. We weren't sure what to expect but when we arrived there we were somewhat surprised. Sure, the path is eroded and covered in lose gravel with a steep drop of 20m into the sea, but the gravel is actually quite grippy and it is only a few metres before you reach the safety of a wider ledge and then carefully pick your way behind a large boulder over more loose gravel above a rockfall. As long as you're careful there shouldn't be a problem. Indeed, I actually thought the section out of Agia Roumeli was worse.



The next section to Tripiti is fine with no horrors. If you're lucky you'll run into the beekeeper (and his donkey) before Tripiti who has water.



A bit of care is needed exiting Tripiti. The Wilson book suggested that the ascent of the gorge side began at a large free standing rock in front of a scree slope. We found such a rock and scree slope (with an E4 sign next to it) and began to ascend. This got steeper and steeper and looser and looser until we were on the edge of what our boots could possibly grip on. The absence of E4 signs was also worrying. After climbing 100 metres above the gorge and getting rather concerned that we were on goat paths with no easy way back down we spotted an E4 sign on the valley floor way up the valley. We knew had to descend, so we traversed (ratherly gingerly) across the scree slope onto a boulder-free section of scree slope then slid down on our backsides to the bottom.



So a word of caution to all coming this way - you actually have to travel at least 0.5km up the valley before the actual E4 begins to ascend. There is an E4 pole above a large boulder on the lower part of the scree slope and the zig zag path is obvious. If you see neither of these, you're on the wrong path.



After an hour lost on the false ascent we were forced to climb the zig zags in the midday sun which drew heavily on our water. Fortunately, the descent on the other side features a spring with good quality water. After that, the path to Sougia is well made and obvious. The only noteworthyascent thereafter is climbing more zig zags to climb out of a minor gorge, but this is minor compared to the ascent out of Tripiti.



All in all, a fabulous wilderness walk which took us 14 hours (including several long breaks) but were pack heavy so slowed considerably. Route-marking is generally good - keep your eyes peeled for E4 poles,cairns and painted rocks and you'll be fine (except in one or two places where you lose them althogether).



The issues which can make this difficult are heat, water supply and some steep ascents/descents. I think an early start on a cloudy day in October and travelling light, it could be done in 8-9 hours, now I know the route.



Otherwise, enjoy! As Wilson says, the days of these types of walk are numbered - especially given the Cretans massive roadbuilding programme at present (e.g. the upgrade of the Imbros Gorge road to a major highway). So get out there

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 New Maps of Crete  Posted by Peter
I have read the book but don't have it for reference.
If you post a list of place names I can tell you which maps you need.
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 New Maps of Crete  Posted by Jonathan Huston
Dear Peter



I am an Australian WW2 enthusuast, who along with some seasoned english trekkers will be re-eancting the fame route of the abduction of General Kreipe as led by Patrick Leigh Fermor in 1944. We commence the journey on April 14 and finish late April. Are you familiar with the route and journey?



What maps would you recommend and how would I acquire them to navigate this route? Essentially which maps would best cover the acreage of interest?



I can send the key points of interest for your info, if you are unaware of the route?



I look forward to hearing from you soon - or indeed any other enthusiast who has knowledge of the route?



Kind regards



Jonathan Huston

Perth, Australia.



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 Re: HORSE-RIDING ON CRETE  Posted by manolis
More informations about Odysseia stables you can find from horseriding,gr

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 Re: HORSE-RIDING ON CRETE  Posted by manolis
Odysseia stables are close to Hersonissos in Crete in a nice are with quality horses and many diferent panoramic rides.

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 Re: HORSE-RIDING ON CRETE  Posted by cella
1. does anyone know where there are great riding stables at in crete?

2. where is odysseia stables at?

3. where can i get riding clothes from in crete?

4. does anyone know where there is a riding stable in breachture?



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 Re: HORSE-RIDING ON CRETE  Posted by cella
can you tell me where this beautiful ridinng place is ! thankyou !

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